From the coast of Shearwater the lights of Halifax skipped across the Bay mingling with the stars reflecting off the water. As the largest Maritimes city and a hub for Wrestling Culture, Halifax had rapidly reversed it's poor fortunes and now the "Casino Nova Scotia" stood out as a beacon, renovated during the 2030s as part of a "Wrestling Revitalization Program" and blaring music and lights which skimmed along the water until breaking at the northern shores of the greater Halifax-Dartmouth area. Holograms of famed Maritime Wrestlers such as Dave Finlay and Sheamus danced along the Bay, skipping back and forth, adverts for the most recent program by Fundy Wrestling and the UWF.
However for Alec Mackinnon the Bay was a blessing acting as the no mans land while the floodlights of Base Shearwater and the lights of Halifax fought a nightly battle for dominance. Throughout most of the year these two bustling locations used for very different purposes would commit a "mock war" fighting for dominance over the Bay. The lights of Halifax shining and in many cases beating those of Shearwater, before fireworks perceived as taunting jeers launched like clockwork from Casino Nova Scotia, signaling the start of a Wrestling Event. For the men of Shearwater, April was an especially active month as it signaled the beginning of "The People's Month" one of the many national holidays instated during the early 20s. And like everywhere across Canada, the people celebrated.
And while the roads of the West such as Highway 1 among others would clutter with cars as people made their monthly pilgrimages to the nearest Wrestling Dome, for Halifax a naval city, it was the Bay that filled up with small boats. The lights of yachts, fishing vessels, and pleasure crafts began to dance across the Bay, so many that one could practically walk across a bridge of boats from Halifax to Shearwater. These vessels all holding spectators to the People's Slam Event being broadcasted via hologram onto the center of the Bay. However to those in Shearwater it simply looked like another complication for a night that was leading into morning drills, as there was no chance the several hundred vessels would all have cleared out of the Bay in the morning.
Jay Donahue: Alec, time to switch. I've got next watch.It took Alec a moment to break from his trance, mesmerized by the lights flirting over the Bay.
Jay Donahue: Alec. Did you hear me?Alec handed Jay the control for the Southwest Tower's floodlight as he got up and started down the open air stairs of the guard tower. The lights of battle carrying on as Jay took up the fight against the Holographic Wrestlers. Yet just before reaching the final step, the lights within the base which had previously illuminated his step down, went dark.
Alec Mackinnon: Huh? Yeah, thanks. Nothing to report, standard stuff really.
Jay Donahue: How'd we do this time?
Alec Mackinnon: Lost again, as usual.
Jay Donahue: Oh well, tough to beat people who actually get to fire off their explosives.
Alec Mackinnon: Haha, yeah. Just one time you know? One time i'd like to fire a Sunbeam across the Bay.
Jay Donahue: Never gonna happen. But yeah, I get it.
Alec Mackinnon: Mmkay well, I leave it to you to carry on the fight.
Alec Mackinnon: Very funny Jay. You can turn the lights back on now.Alec Mackinnon craning his head to look up towards the tower, quickly realized that he could see the stars. Not just as muddled lights amid holograms, but he could see them clearly. Racing up the steps, he joined Jay in disbelief as across the Bay only the lights of the various civilian boats continued to light the way.
Jay Donahue: That wasn't me...
Then along the walls of Base Shearwater, red flood lights turned on.
Alec Mackinnon: Did we get scheduled for an emergency drill?Jay Donahue: No, that was last month.
Alec Mackinnon: Then it has to be an actual emergency.Before Jay could even get a reply, Alec was already down the stairs and halfway to the main building. But without warning the brightest hologram ever witnessed in Halifax appeared over the Bay, illuminating the grounds of Shearwater and the Halifax-Dartmouth coastline both. The figure? Undeniably the People's Champion and National Champion, Maxime Bernier.
Jay Donahue: Or a mistake by the electrical engineers.
Maxime Hologram: Fellow Canadians...it is with deep regret that I announce the fall of the United States of America as we know it.Alec barely had enough time to stop and turn before the Hologram began speaking.
Maxime Hologram: At approximately 00:00 hours, the "American Coalition" declared unilateral independence and formation of the American Republic.Alec knew he had to get inside, but his run to the building had slowed as he tried to prolong his stay outside to hear the hologram of Maxime.
Jay Donahue: Alec...it's happening...
Maxime Hologram: Coinciding with this declaration, the American Republic has initiated an immediate and widesweeping invasion of the United States of America, attacking all aspects of the United States.
Maxime Hologram: Effective immediately, we have entered into Defense Plan One, civilians are being instructed to return to their homes and follow the instructions given under Operation Open Road.Alec now joined by Jay, quickly ran into headquarters for what was about to be the night of their lives. The hologram of Maxime Bernier now playing on repeat as the remaining lights on the Bay began dispersing.
Alec Mackinnon: Holy shit...
Kyle Dobrev: Alec! Jay! Let's go. Get your asses in here now!
It had been under two hours since the initiation of Defense Plan One, and Alec Mackinnon and the rest of the Black Watch stood at attention on the wind swept airfields of Shearwater. Behind them, engines of the V-32s carrying members of their sister regiment the East Watch began firing as they prepared to take off. Alec looked onward as the East Watch marched past towards the Hummingbirds, prepared for war. The Colonel of the East Watch stopping just long enough to say goodbye to the Colonel of Black Watch.
Colonel Dahlin (East Watch): First Into Hell.Colonel Dahlin shook Colonel Van Neer's hand who nodded in farewell, before giving a final salute to the men of Black Watch who still stood at attention, while cold wind whipped their faces. And as the last of the Hummingbirds took off, the runway was quickly filled once more with C130J Super Hercules ready to take the Black Watch.
Colonel Van Neer (Black Watch): Six Feet Down.
Colonel Van Neer: Men of the Black Watch.Colonel Van Neer turned to his men, who still despite the cold, stood at attention.
Colonel Van Neer: Our sister regiment is gone. We will be joining them shortly. You all have been briefed but let's see if you all remember.Alec stood alongside his brothers in arms, prepared to deliver their answer.
Colonel Van Neer: Who are we?With a final hoorah the soldiers of Black Watch took off running to the C130Js, and with a quick flip of a switch the engines roared to life and the Wings of Hercules touched air.
The Black Watch: The Black Watch!
Colonel Van Neer: Where are we?
The Black Watch: Standing Above Hell!
Colonel Van Neer: Where are we going?
The Black Watch: Six Feet Down!
Colonel Van Neer: Let's get going.
By morning the Bay would be empty, save for the Canadian Atlantic Fleet making it's way out of Shearwater into the open Ocean. And across the country, no pilgrimage would occur.
|funny||Doctors weigh in on United Airlines PR disaster||United|
|funny||None of us are giving Ludacris enough credit for dissing both Bill O'Reilly and Pepsi in the same verse 7 YEARS AGO!||Pepsi|
|videos||United airlines flight suggestions by Google Home|
|pics||Ok guys, I have a ticket and I'm in my seat at the United Center. Wish me luck.||United|
|IAmA||AMA Request: One of the United employees that replaced the removed passenger.||United|
|AskReddit||People of Reddit who are not from the U.S.A., what did you think was true in the United States that you ended up finding out was completely false when you came to visit/live here?||United|
|funny||Rare unseen photo from the United Airlines incident!||United|
|Music||Sylvan Esso - Radio indie pop new video||Esso|
|funny||The guy on United Airlines was dazed and confused.||United|
|worldnews||Man dragged screaming and bloodied from United Airlines flight takes legal action||United|
|AskReddit||What would cause my Volkswagen Beetle 2009 to have turn signal problems, where they stay green & don't flash?||Volkswagen|
|funny||Today on United Airline||United|
|videos||Disabled Man Removed From United Airlines Flight: ft iDubbbzTV & MaxMoeFoe||United|
|AskReddit||Why would a not gay man drive a Mazda Miata?||Mazda|
|funny||Guys, United Airlines apologized, so doesn't that mean we should forget what happened and just continue using their services like we did with BP?||United|
|mildlyinteresting||Rare unseen photo from the United Airlines incident||United|
|nottheonion||Fans upset after Budweiser a little harder to Find||Budweiser|
|Art||Jack Dorsey Co founder of Twitter - Portrait, MNQ Art Gallery, Canvas, 2017|
|AskReddit||How can a introvert create a really nifty Youtube persona unlike their own real persona?||Youtube|
|funny||I was on United Airlines earlier this week.||United|
|funny||This just showed up on my Facebook feed|
|personalfinance||Has anyone else tried the "Use an Access Code" option on Wells Fargo ATMs? I have and I enjoy it.||Wells Fargo|
|funny||In the TV show Friends, Ross flew with United Airlines to an across-state zoo, only to find that his pet monkey Marcel had "died." Was Marcel "reaccomdated"?||United|
|Jokes||Have you tried downloading the United Airlines app?||United|
|nottheonion||Microsoft Announce Cross Network Support: Play Online Against PS4 Owners From Your Xbox One||Xbox|
|AskReddit||What are the Frameworks for managing risk and uncertainties in Oculus Rift, Gear VR, and Google VR projects?|
|gaming||I Believe Reaper Can Fly and/or works at United Airlines||United|
|videos||Joe Rogan & Joey Diaz on United Airlines Scandal||United|
|photoshopbattles||PsBattle: This bald officer holding a McDonald's cup||McDonald's|
|AskReddit||What are your favorite United memes?||United|
|funny||Future United Airlines flights be like.||United|
|pics||This guy who built his own IPhone looks like the Burger King King.||Burger King|
|worldnews||Donald Trump: China 'not a currency manipulator' - BBC News||BBC|
|Jokes||Did you hear about Southwest Airlines new promise?||Southwest|
|AskReddit||Why doesn't MTV create cool promo bumpers like they used to do in the 80's?||MTV|
|AskReddit||Where are the best non tourist places to visit in the United States?||United|
|pics||So a Week ago A friend told me there was a new reboot of Monk on tv and asked me to search. I searched Google extensively and told him there wasn't. This is my Amazon Today Note, I don't like the show Monk|
|Showerthoughts||I have to wait 6 weeks for my Apple Airpods.||Apple|
|Jokes||We should stop the jokes about United Airlines||United|
|news||Charging Bull artist wants removal of Fearless Girl statue - BBC News||BBC|
|videos||New United Airlines Welcome Aboard and Safety Video||United|
|AskReddit||If you could watch one last Youtube video before you die, what would it be?||Youtube|
|todayilearned||TIL that following “Dunk-a-roos” being discontinued in the United States in 2012, General Mills in 2016 encouraged Canadians traveling to the United States to bring the snack to Americans who wanted it in a campaign called "Smugglaroos", as the product still remains in production in Canada||United|
|funny||Bringing Facebook up to speed with United...|
|mildlyinteresting||This poster advertising a company's app has only the Google Play icon colors, not the shape of the icon|
|gaming||Logged out of Xbox Live due to change in password, now can't access premium maps?||Xbox|
|gaming||New United Airlines DlC leaked for rainbow six, expect TSA operators in the near future.||United|
|Jokes||God dang you people and your United jokes.||United|
|Jokes||Bipartisanship is bad for the United States||United|
|OldSchoolCool||Bud Singh Dhillon, c. 1945, an American of Punjabi descent who voluntarily enlisted in the United States Army to fight against fascism||United|
|movies||1 Did Marvel provide Sony with the Iron Man models cg and physical for use in Spider-Man?||Sony|
|news||Illinois woman admits plotting massacre at Halifax Shopping Centre||Halifax|
|personalfinance||Indirect Rollover Question Regarding Total Amount and Reporting on Taxes||Total|
|AskReddit||What's the most Walmart thing you've seen someone do at Walmart?||Walmart|
|explainlikeimfive||ELI5:How the senates vote to allow ISPs to collect our data differs from what websites such as Facebook already do.|
|gaming||Old Game In New Shell "Sky Force" Still Love it a lot||Shell|
|funny||A typical day at United Airlines||United|
|movies||For those who've seen both, which version of Sabrina do you like better: Bogart and Hepburn's 1954 Billy Wilder Sabrina or Harrison Ford and Julia Ormond's 1995 Sydney Pollack Sabrina?||Ford|
|worldnews||Syria war: Anger after Russia vetoes resolution at UN - BBC News||BBC|
|Showerthoughts||I wonder if Bob Ross or Fred Rogers ever just broke down and cried because the problems and the pain in the world felt too big.||Rogers|
|news||The girl with eight Ivy League college offers - BBC News||BBC|
|worldnews||Tesla board 'too close to Elon Musk' - BBC News||BBC|
|funny||Today on United Airlines||United|
|mildlyinteresting||This was at the McDonald's by my place. The sign McMelted.||McDonald's|
|funny||Uploaded all of my photos onto Google Photos, and they automatically made this for me|
|explainlikeimfive||ELI5: Why/How is Tesla given such a high valuation, more so than Ford and GM recently, despite never turning a profit?||Ford|
|funny||Hey United Airlines||United|
|videos||The first episode of a 7 episode show called IKEA Heights. It's a fake melodrama series set in an IKEA store without permission||IKEA|
|videos||Neil Degrasse Tyson - If You Could Live Forever||Tyson|
|personalfinance||Do Chase Freedom and Chase Amazon points add up?||Chase|
|funny||Have you heard United Airlines new slogan?||United|
|funny||Really nice of Walmart to provide a cage for the kids, there's even some shrink wrap for them to play with!!!||Walmart|
|sports||Hands down, best description of Mike Tyson ever||Tyson|
|videos||Mavic gets it done up at Bell Canyon Reservoir||Bell|
|AskReddit||How do you think the United incident would have been different if it was a white girl instead of an Asian man?||United|
|funny||Feeling safer on United Airlines already.||United|
|funny||Wendy's on Twitter is the best|
|gaming||Why are my triggers sticking in my brand new Xbox controller?||Xbox|
|pics||Requested a Hulu code from my Xbox about 3 hours ago. Then got this text 2.5 hours later. This is not the code. The number leads to a sketchy voicemail I called-did not enter code. Any ideas what's up?||Xbox|
|worldnews||New United Video Shows Moments Before Officers Dragged Doctor From Plane||United|
|AskReddit||To anyone that works for United Airlines, what is your perspective on the latest incident and has it changed your daily work environment?||United|
|funny||I don't know if this United Airlines flight just got safer or more dangerous.||United|
|AskReddit||You will be paid $20/day if you wear Ferrari cologne; what do you do?||Ferrari|
|worldnews||Taiwan bans slaughter of cats and dogs for human consumption - BBC News||BBC|
|funny||12 United Airlines Memes||United|
|gaming||Thinking about trading my Xbox One S for a Switch. Any thoughts?||Xbox|
|videos||The United Fiasco Day 3. New video footage and a humble CEO.||United|
|funny||Getting Dragged Off a United Airlines Flight? Here's How To Kick That Person's Ass.||United|
|funny||I'm trying to hop on this derailed United train||United|
|funny||Meet the newest member of United Airlines booking and security team.||United|
|Jokes||How do you eat your United Airlines meal?||United|
|videos||What happens if you take your driving test in a Porsche 911?||Porsche|
|nottheonion||Burger King ad tries to trigger voice-activated Google devices|
|WritingPrompts||WP All mammals on earth suddenly gain human level intelligence. A world organization modeled like the United Nations is set up for species to squabble over their interests. You happen to represent one of the animals. Choose a species and write about a discussion you have regarding your interests.||United|
|worldnews||‘Don’t You Dare Insult Russia Again!” Moscow's UN Rep Screams in New York: Vladimir Safronkov, Russia's deputy ambassador to the United Nations, launched into a tirade today in New York, nearly yelling at British UN Ambassador Matthew Rycroft.||United|
|funny||Sure hope it's not another United joke||United|
|Showerthoughts||In five years I might be able to break into someone's house by telling their Google speakers to unlock the door.|
|AskReddit||If you were the CEO of United what would your plan be now?||United|
|worldnews||New Video Shows United Airlines Passenger Moments Before Forced Removal: 'I Am Not Going!'||United|
|worldnews||Grammar schools must serve 'ordinary families' - BBC News||BBC|
|funny||Landing after a United Airlines flight be like||United|
|Jokes||So many failed United Airlines jokes...||United|
|Documentaries||Casino Jack and the United States of Money 2010 "A probing investigation into the lies, greed and corruption surrounding D.C. super-lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his cronies."||United|
|AskReddit||What are some of the best non-root apps that aren't in the Google Play store?|
|listentothis||Las Mar - Synchronise Experimental indie / Progressive / One-man-band 2015||Progressive|
|AskReddit||Now that the United Airlines situation seems to be dying down, what was your favourite thing/event reddit seemed to get obsessed with?||United|
|Music||Here’s One Less Reason to Pay for Apple Music||Apple|
|AskReddit||Is shorting/selling the United Airline stock a viable way to enforce some sort of punishment? What are the possible repercussions of this?||United|
|pics||So is this Taco Bell packet a 4 leaf clover?||Bell|
|mildlyinteresting||My ice at McDonald's came in one big piece||McDonald's|
|funny||I want an 18+ Google Autodraw.|
|Jokes||Why would anyone fly United Airlines anyways?!?!||United|
|WritingPrompts||WP Write an George Orwell type story of the United States 2016 Presidential Election||United|
|AskReddit||Who had the worst presidency of all time in United States?||United|
|AskReddit||Redditors of the United States, what are the tourist attractions or spots near you that one should see on a comprehensive tour of the states?||United|
|AskReddit||A highly advanced mind-reading gadget was just invented by Apple and you are selected for the test-run, whom will you use it on?||Apple|
|AskReddit||Serious Employees of United Airlines, what is it like working for United Airlines now?||United|
|WritingPrompts||WP All animals on earth suddenly gain human level intelligence. A organization is set up modeled like the United Nations for species to squabble over their interests. You happen to represent one of the humans. Choose one and worry a discussion you have with other animals about your wants.||United|
|pics||I flew United today||United|
|food||I Ate Cute Lingonberry Quark Cheesecake -- from IKEA of all places||IKEA|
|AskReddit||A United Airlines Security guard slaps your girlfriend's ass and says, "Boy, I'd love to drag that out of a plane." What do you do?||United|
|todayilearned||TIL of the 1917 Halifax explosion. It is the largest man-made explosion in history prior to the development of nuclear weapons, killing approximately 2,000 people.||Halifax|
|worldnews||New Video Shows Argument That Led to United Airlines Passenger Being Dragged From Plane||United|
|WritingPrompts||WP All animals on earth suddenly gain human intelligence. A organization is set up like the United Nations for animals to squabble over their interests. Choose an animal and write a discussion you have with other animals on your needs.||United|
|AskReddit||Which has had the worse corporate impact, the United Airlines debacle or the Pepsi commercial?||Pepsi|
|AskReddit||Which has had the worse corporate impact, the United Airlines debacle or the Pepsi commercial?||United|
|Jokes||I think Pizza Hut is the cockiest pizza chain on the planet||Pizza Hut|
|gaming||Mass Effect 2 Is United now in space?||United|
|worldnews||Russia criticised over Beslan massacre - BBC News||BBC|
|AskReddit||Are Michelin tires over rated/worth the extra money, or are they all that they're cracked up to be? Why?||Michelin|
|gifs||A Ford will never let you down||Ford|
|gaming||Published my first game on the Google Play Store! What do you think?|
|worldnews||Strike threat after Royal Mail closes pension scheme||Royal Mail|
|funny||Due to popular demand, United Airlines has made adjustments to their in-flight menu...||United|
|Jokes||Have you heard the new United Airlines motto?||United|
|Music||"Freedom" from Freedom - Single by Eu Gene on Apple Music||Apple|
|AskReddit||What would it be like to play paintball against Delta Force?||Delta|
|funny||PIA dissing United airlines.||United|
|nottheonion||Boy learns to drive on YouTube for McDonald's joyride||McDonald's|
|Jokes||After the United Airlines incident, I realised that other than the red eye flight...||United|
|videos||With all the recent press surrounding United Airlines, there is never a better time to remember this Chris Morris prank call||United|
|Jokes||Was out of the loop. Asian friend told me United Airlines has the power to deny your liberties||United|
|funny||This is Shelia Fredrick, a flight attendant. She noticed a terrified Asian doctor being beaten & dragged off the plane. She left a note in the bathroom on which the victim wrote "wait till Reddit sees this". United Airlines hasn't left the front page since. We should honor our heroes.||United|
|funny||Movie Predicting United Airlines Passenger Treatment||United|
|pics||Was lucky enough to drive this 1 of 700 ever made, BMW M4 GTS||BMW|
|Showerthoughts||My Google search history is basically just the toilet of my brain.|
|worldnews||Japan's Nomura targets younger generation as demographic crunch looms||Nomura|
|funny||Given complementary to all passengers from now on, courtesy of United Airlines||United|
|worldnews||Japan's Nomura Holdings Inc 8604.T aims to leverage its access to about 1.6 million members of employee stock ownership plans to tap a new generation of customers as its client base grays||Nomura|
|worldnews||Landlord adverts posted online 'target young for sex' - BBC News||BBC|
|todayilearned||TIL The random J's you see in emails, especially at work, are due to Microsoft Outlook using Wingdings for smilies and either you or someone in the chain did not have Wingdings installed||Microsoft|
|funny||4 out of 5 doctors recommend United Airlines||United|
|dataisbeautiful||How Vanguard's Target Retirement Date Funds change as you get closer to retirement OC||Target|
|Jokes||Why do people fear flying with United Airlines?||United|
|AskReddit||What are the best non-tourist areas in the United States?||United|
|AskReddit||What the United equivalent for other industries?||United|
|worldnews||Brexit Bulletin: What HSBC Is Seeing||HSBC|
|worldnews||Borussia Dortmund attack: Iraqi suspect 'linked to IS' - BBC News||BBC|
|AskReddit||Why has the passenger dragged off the United flight been identified but the officer who did the dragging has not?||United|
|Jokes||If United Airlines are ever underbooked||United|
|worldnews||While everyone was fussing about United Airlines, a Finnish airline employee takes care of a baby to help a mother of four||United|
|gaming||Price analysis of Xbox Scorpio. Think it'll stay $500 or less? This guy makes some good points.||Xbox|
|news||Nashville Man's Body Stranded After Delta Flight Chaos||Delta|
|AskReddit||The PR desaster of United Airlines was about a ticket that only costed a few hundred Dollars. What other huge PR desasters resulted from tiny mishaps?||United|
|funny||Few days later on United Airlines flight to nowhere...||United|
|Showerthoughts||I have to force myself to press on "Videos" in Google searches because of the left-over scarring of "Google Videos"|
|AskReddit||How long do you think it will be until people stop posting United Airlines memes?||United|
|Jokes||Why did United decide to bump all the unwilling passengers?||United|
|gaming||What are some sad, beautiful games for Xbox One?||Xbox|
|worldnews||Report: body of the United States’ first female Muslim judge found in Hudson River.||United|
|news||Huddersfield child sex inquiry sees 29 in court - BBC News||BBC|
|worldnews||Huddersfield child sex inquiry sees 29 in court - BBC News||BBC|
|videos||10 Hilarious Meme Responses To United Airlines Dragging Customer||United|
|news||I wonder why Yahoo includes the deceased person's religion in the headline...||Yahoo|
|gaming||Shadow Of War; 6 Things You Probably Didn't Now- Xbox One Trailer||Xbox|
|Jokes||Can we please stop with the United jokes?||United|
|nosleep||I found something sinister on Youtube UPDATE||Youtube|
|videos||One of the officers was upset Kendal Jenner didn't have enough Pepsi for everyone.||Pepsi|
|funny||A photo of United Airlines, as of this morning||United|
|Futurology||Solar employs more U.S. workers than Apple, Google, and Facebook combined|
|mildlyinteresting||A Perfect Nike Footprint||Nike|
|funny||Now being sold at all United Airlines||United|
|nottheonion||Ohio boy, 8, craving McDonald's burger, takes parents' van to drive-thru||McDonald's|
|Jokes||As compensation for their appalling behaviour, United Airlines are going to sponsor a lot more community sports and activities||United|
|news||Drunk harassed N.J. mom on flight, but United kept booze flowing, report says||United|
|videos||Make 500$ Per Month Easily Youtube Hacks Tips and Tricks Secret Methods||Youtube|
|news||A Southwest Arkansas man must serve six years prison for videotaping himself engaging in sexual activity with animals.||Southwest|
|OldSchoolCool||My grandmother as a model for Volvo 1959||Volvo|
|AskReddit||Redditors who are "interested" in events on Facebook - do you ever actually go to any of them?|
|Jokes||I'm so bored of this United Airlines thing.||United|
|worldnews||Nigeria's EFCC 'finds $43m in Lagos flat' - BBC News||BBC|
|I don't know of any Titanic-related conspiracy theories offhand, but have you heard of any? If so, what are some of the wackiest ones? Do any of them hold water? (zing!)||No Titanic conspiracies hold water, and I've heard 'em all -- that the builders cut costs with cheaper quality iron / rivets (there were low quality iron rivets on the ship, but only in particular areas, and for different reasons than cost), the insurance fraud, the mummy, that it was a curse from God for Lightoller's off-handed "God himself couldn't sink this ship!" claim (which probably didn't happen), the "NO POPE" thing...|
|Were there any other passengers with tales of heroism like Molly Brown? Any cool facts about her? Did the band really keep playing until the end? Any cool facts about them? We often hear the Titanic described as "unsinkable." I know she only took on this moniker after sinking, but was she really built as well as she could've been and this was just a freak accident? Or did they overestimate her capability?||Molly Brown wasn't all that heroic like common tales about her tell, regarding the Titanic, though she WAS an amazing person -- philanthropist, women's rights activist, a right decent gal. As far as the Titanic went, it's true that she didn't initially want to go into a lifeboat -- she kept giving her seats away, until three men dumped her overboard into one just as it was being launched. She also reportedly took up an oar (lots of women did) and gave her coat to one of the engineers that had survived, and had gone into a lifeboat in nothing but a tank top and pants. Yes! William Wallace Hartley's band really did play until the end, and they really did break before the ship went down, Hartley started to play solo, and then the band rejoined him. No cool facts necessarily, other than that their talent was unquestionable -- White Star Line musicians were expected to have complete memorization of over 500 pieces of music, and be able to perform them with the director simply giving the song's number in the book. The cellist had an interesting little fling with a 2nd class lady, often going to her cabin to give "private concerts". She survived -- the cellist didn't. The musicians travelled in 2nd class accommodations. The Titanic really was described as "nigh unsinkable", and for all practical purposes, she was -- designed to survive head-on collisions, beachings, impacts with other ships. In fact, her older sister ship was practically a hero in World War 1 -- she survived several torpedo and mine strikes as a troop transport, carrying over 400,000 soldiers across her tour. Titanic's accident truly was a freak accident of circumstance, of ignorance, and of confidence, to a lot of extent. The Olympic may have faired so well because after Titanic's sinking, Olympic's bulkhead doors were added and reinforced and a lot of other little security additions.|
|How do you know the band played untill the end? Wouldn't anyone who witnessed this also die?||A lot of witnesses from lifeboats who had stayed somewhat near the ship were able to clearly hear the band until the ship was listing too much to stay upright.|
|There seems to be a number of elements that contributed to this incident. Outside of simply "hitting an iceberg", what, in your opinion, is the single most important event/failure/person/whatever, that caused the tragedy?||Probably the Marconi wireless radio being down. Radio staff weren't hired by White Star Line, and they didn't take orders from the officers, except in times of emergencies. Any radio traffic coming to or from the ship was mostly based on the operators' whim, and they worked for tips, so mostly they were interested in relaying passenger messages to or from shore. The radio had been down April 13th, so on the 14th the operators were scrambling to catch up with the work load. So when important messages, such as the Californian's "Surrounded by ice on all sides" came through, they were either ignored, or worse, the operator snapped back negatively. Back then wireless communication was done on a single band, and the Californian's radio message jammed the operator's transmission to Cape Rice. So he replied to the Californian something like "Shutup, keep out, I'm in with Cape Rice", instead of relaying the message to the bridge. That /also/ upset the Californian's radio operator. He ended his shift hours early and didn't turn on the recorder for his radio (because it would keep him up). The Titanic's CQD / SOS messages fell on deaf ears for the Californian.|
|My husband's maternal grandfather is a descendant of the Phillips' family. The same family of one of the radio staff.||Amazing! There's lots of information on him. He was one of the true heroes that night, sending messages up until the second that the radio stopped working.|
|WOW. This is amazing. Someone not passing on communications is unfathomable to me, as a soldier.||It was pretty common, actually, though it was as a direct result of the Titanic disaster that all ships of a certain size were required to have 24 hour manned radios, and to prioritize any and all warnings.|
|I thought the guys in the watch tower watching Jack and Rose make out and not having binoculars was the cause of the crash... Sorry, just got back from the movie.||Haha.. Another bothersome part of the scene... Jack and Rose would be severely chastised for going onto the forecastle deck!|
|It's Cape Race.||Huh.|
|I may have been saying that wrong my entire career.|
|Changes that should have been put in place ages ago seldom are until some huge disaster happens. Sad really :(||Let's hope we don't forget that again too soon.|
|What inaccuracies, if any, did you see in James Cameron's "Titanic"?||Oh man, all kinds. They get the gist of the event right, but they put WAY too much effort into making J. Bruce Ismay look like the bad guy for suggesting the lifeboat situation was fine. Having 24 lifeboats instead of the "ideal" 60 was a practical decision -- having 60 full-sized lifeboats on top of the Titanic was a huge weight and storage issue, and would've rendered the boat deck largely useless. Plus, and this requires historical context, the Titanic was carrying far more lifeboats already than the boards of regulations had deemed necessary. The lifeboat regulations were based on information from the 1890's -- so 22 years of advancements in ship size wouldn't have been accounted for. They required a minimum # of lifeboats aboard a ship, -OR- a minimum # of deckspace devoted for lifeboats, both limits of which the Titanic already far exceeded.|
|According to Neil deGrasse Tyson, the night sky was also wrong. That's probably the biggest inaccuracy of them all.||"biggest", I see what you did there. :D.|
|Also when the ship was sinking the actors were just walking through what was supposed to be ICE COLD water like it was no big deal.||Yeah.. It wasn't convincing.|
|Isn't it also true the lifeboats were half empty? I read somewhere that if all of them would have been full 50% would have made it off.||A bit over, even, I believe the total lifeboat capacity was in the 1400's, out of 2,228 passengers and crew. The lifeboats were lowered early and half manned for a lot of reasons, from poor loading procedures to rushing to get them down to boats simply rolling off as the ship's list became more and more severe.|
|What do you think of the Titanic conspiracy? Could the Olympic have gone down that fateful night and not the Titanic?||Pardon me for cheating, but I'm gonna repost a reply I made in a previous thread. :)|
|The 'insurance fraud' stories are patently ridiculous, but they make for a good story. Happily I never retold those as half-truths in my time at the exhibition! :P For those who don't know, the Olympic was originally damaged pretty badly a few times, namely when she threw her screw in one accident and was rammed by the HMS Hawke another occasion. Conspiracy theorists suggest that the repairs to the Olympic were so costly and the Titanic insured so highly that they'd just call one ship the other, swim the Olympic (falsely called "Titanic") out to the sea, sink her, and collect a fat check.|
|It could never have happened for a few reasons, namely that the Titanic and Olympic were NOT completely identical ships. The Titanic included a covered promenade deck, a different layout for the first class cabins, unique restaurants and the grand staircase. Her steel was also labelled with her hull number, 401, or with her Board of Trade Registration number, 131428. The ship at the bottom of the ocean right now has those numbers, the covered promenade, the grand staircase, et cetera. Basically, if they had decided to swap ships for insurance fraud, they would have literally reconstructed the Olympic nearly bottom up, which would've easily negated any savings from the insurance fraud itself.|
|Any neat stories of heroism/humanity that you know of?||The story of one of the richest men aboard, Benjamin Guggenheim, escorting his "date" onto a lifeboat, then heading into the parlour with his valet. When someone tried to usher him to the deck, he said "We are dressed in our best, and prepared to go down like gentlemen." He went into the smoking room and played a hand of cards as the ship sank. It was represetnted in the movie more or less accurately.|
|What is your favorite story to tell regarding the Titanic?||The story about how the ship was on fire. O_O.|
|So one of the contributors to the tragedy (though it probably wouldn't have made a huge difference either way) was that, shortly after the ship left her berth in Belfast, she had a coal fire in one of her bunkers. It took days to put out because the fire had started deep in the coal pile. The captain was made aware of it, but decided to continue to steam on anyway. It took three days to get to where the fire was, and another day to put it out. Throughout this time it had very seriously damaged one of the bulkhead doors, and when the water pressed against this particular door, it most likely collapsed and hastened the Titanic's sinking.|
|Where was the ship when they realized there was a problem? Would it have been practical for them to head to port?||They were aware of the coal fire from day one, but they're somewhat common occurences. The clincher there was that, until they finally left Cove, there were only 3 people to dig out thousands of tons of coal, and it took days to get down to the smoldering coals and finally put them out.|
|Cobh.||Right, sorry -- "Queenstown" is more accurate, since Cobh wasn't called Cobh until the 1920's I believe, but I've never known its exact spelling. I only knew it because proud irishmen would pronounce it "Cove" while telling me the poster labeling the city "Queenstown" was inaccurate. :P.|
|What got you interested in Titanic? How did you start?||To be honest, I didn't give two shits about the Titanic until I got the job with the help of a family member who had connections. They originally hired me to be a greeter, but when I demonstrated a proficiency in some other things, they decided I was probably brainy enough to retain enough information to do it. So, I studied hard, and fell in love. :)|
|Just so you know, I've been studying everything Titanic since I was seven (that's over a decade of information collecting, here), and I love you and wish I had your job.||That's amazing -- definitely keep it up. Please feel free to inquire anything of me. Also, I love you too. <3.|
|Jebus McCreebus. It's not what you know, it's who you know.||On the strip, especially.|
|Have you ever talked to someone who has actually been to the real thing? If so, what did they tell you? (I WILL save enough money to go there before it dissolves.)||We had an iceberg for that purpose, a "real" one (in that it was a frozen wall of ice...) It was freshwater, though, so didn't measure up to the real chill. Still, we frequently had guests press their hands to it to see how long they could keep their hands to it. Once I had informed them that Carrot Top had licked the thing, they balk quickly. ;P.|
|Why didn't Rose share the door with Jack? Plus how funny was that one part where the dude fell from the back of the boat, hit the railing and spun into the water below?||Because Jack was 3rd class. Being seen with him on the same door would be a TOTAL social faux pas.|
|Who do you think has the most interesting survival story from the incident? and the most honorable death?||The most interesting survival story...... Probably Charles Joughin's, who was represented in the film even (the white-clad fellow beside Jack and Rose as they ride the forecastle railing down in the ship's final moments). He was a heavy set fellow, and allegedly, had wrapped leathers around himself and imbibed a fifth of scotch and other drinks before going into the water. Allegedly, he survived for hours in the icy water before being pulled onto the overturned collapsible B, where he stood for hours more until being pulled into another lifeboat with the other survivors of Collapsible B.|
|The most honorable death by far goes to the "firemen" -- a ship's crew who shovels coal into the fires to keep the ship powered. None of them survived. They continued powering coal to allow the radio to continue transmitting long until the lifeboats were completely gone -- the ship didn't lose power until just a few moments before she split and sank. To this day, I was told, many Cunard "firemen" and engineers still wear the patch that those 13 heroes wore in commemoration.|
|I always wondered if the power going out late in the film was real or not! Thanks.||Of course. =)|
|What do you think about the similarities between the ship Titan in the book Futility and the RMS Titanic?||OH MAN I FORGOT ABOUT THIS UNTIL YOU MENTIONED IT!|
|Crazy cool coincidences, so for those who don't know / don't want to click the link, basically this book came out in 1890's that was a social commentary about "the world's grandest liner", full of the world's wealthiest people, sailing across the north atlantic to New York and striking an ice berg and sinking, where nearly all passengers died because of a lack of lifeboats. It was pretty crazy!|
|Gotta watch them troll posts ;P.|
|Is there any way the ship could have been saved from the moment it hit the iceberg? something they could have done, maybe?||They could've stopped instead of going straight to full reverse, they could've not let David Blair leave the ship with the key to the crow's nest binoculars in his pocket, they could've stayed in Belfast to put out the fire in the coal bunker, they could've relayed more iceberg warnings to the bridge, they could've pushed back the launch date to finish the ship (she was about 1/3 of her cabins empty because they weren't finished).... All kinds of things, tragically. :(|
|So if 1/3 of the cabins were empty, how many spots was that? At least those hypothetical guests didn't die.||Her total capacity was ~3,550.|
|Wow the ship wasn't finished? Is there anything else interesting related to that you might talk about? Great ama, thanks for doing it!||Hmm.. Lots of interesting little facts. Only three funnels on the ship were real -- the 4th funnel was fake, but added to make the ship look more grand. It was carrying a lot of weird things, too -- an interesting one is that one woman claimed as she wandered the ship the night of the collision that she heard a cock's crow, which was considered to be a deathly omen. She may well have -- the Titanic was carrying 13 chickens and a rooster!|
|Are there any artifacts from the sinking that you believe should not be recovered out of respect for the victims, as many claim?||I'm not much for "remembering the dead" as it were -- they're dead, they don't need things, they don't care about their stuff because they're dead. From a personal perspective, I don't think anything about the ship should be sacred, however I really enjoyed the policy of RMS Titanic, Inc. to return any artifacts to surviving family if they can prove it's theirs. I think that's definitely a social responsibility for recovered artifacts.|
|Are their still human remains recoverable trapped inside the hull, would you consider these should be left.||There would not be any remains, no. The entire ship is open to ocean life at the bottom, and crustaceans and fish would have cleaned out everything, including the bones.|
|What artifacts have been discovered and returned to families since you've worked there? If none, what do you know of?||A pocket watch was one -- returned to the daughter of a survivor, then returned to RMS Titanic, Inc. upon her death.|
|What's your favorite titanic related joke? Also, what's the spookiest fact you know... also, how do you feel about Battleship?||This horrifying gift-shop item is probably my favorite / most horrifying "joke". The spookiest "Facts" probably had to do with the exhibit themselves, and I retold them frequently, even though I'm a big skeptic and didn't believe a word of it until some really weird shit happened to me one night (though I still kind of rationalize that away as different things). Battleship the game? I love it. :o.|
|I'd say this is probably in poorer taste than that ice cube tray: Link to www.partyusa.com.||Yeeowch....|
|Oh man, don't leave me hanging like that. Now you have to tell me EVERY spooky or weird fact you know about the Titanic. :P.||The big one was the story that a journalist aboard had told a woman to impress her, most likely -- he said there was a cursed mummy aboard the ship. This was "corraborated" by one couple who decided against boarding at the last moment because an old woman said "that ship is cursed". There was no mummy, though, and it's no surprise an old woman thought the ship was cursed -- hundreds of thousands of people saw her off and 2300 people were aboard. SOMEBODY had to be a doomsayer.|
|What happened that night?||I'll preface this by saying I was in a casino, underneath an empty IMAX theatre, and above a casino floor. Noises could've come from anywhere.|
|BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS.|
|Okay so the place had 16 rooms, and near the end is a room that's designed to be completely dark. House lights shine special blue filtered lights on a 15 ton piece of the titanic's hull and the room it's in is huge. I was cleaning some cases after hours, and the house lights had come on, and I hear some voices on the other side of the room. The door is blocked from view by the big piece, and I think its my supervisor, so I go take a peek into the previous room. This room is /also/ dark, followed by an even darker hallway, and two even darker rooms after that, and I hear a sort've ghostly giggling noise. I assume some guests got stuck or I missed them or something and it's after hours, so I need to go get them out. Each preceeding room I walk into, the opposite door shuts, so I start hurrying, running through -- I go past the promenade deck exhibit, it's getting darker, the laughing gets louder, it's getting weirder. Finally, I get into the Grand Staircase room -- the stairs go up to a light gallery. I peek around, nothing up there, so I leave. As soon as I am back out that room, I hear what sounds like footsteps, like someone just took a running leap down the steps. TOTALLY freaks me the hell out.|
|At this point I get on my wrist radio (secret service style), telling my supervisor "There are kids playing around in here, check the cameras for me". He says he sees nothing, nobody's in there but me. I check all the doors, locked in and out, even the fire gate is down. So, a little freaked out, I return to that big piece room, and start hearing footsteps behind me. I turn around, and the footsteps sound like such that, were I looking at somebody, they'd have been stomping, hard, up to my face -- but, naturally, nobody's there. At THAT point, I just threw my rag and spray bottle, said "Nope!" and told my supervisor I'm done. He wouldn't go in afterwards either -- the cleaning lady had to recover my stuff the next morning.|
|I remember thinking when I went on one of these things in 8th grade that it might be in bad taste. I still went on it 50+ times tho, those things were ridiculously fun.||May you step on a lego for your disrespect!|
|I bet that old woman shook her head ruefully and said "I told them so" to herself. I wonder if she naysayed everything, and this was the big payoff of her life, or if she'd just had a weird feeling about this one.||Yeah, kind of like a hypochondriac getting cancer. It probably validated every worry she ever had in life.|
|You need to sex this up, flesh it out a bit, and submit it over at /nosleep. It'll be a hit.||I'll do just that. Sexin' things up is a personal favorite activity.|
|How many artifacts have been recovered in total?||During my time at the exhibition, over 5,500 artifacts had been recovered, ~320 of which were in my exhibit. A lot of it is coal -- RMS TItanic, Inc. and Premier Exhibitions, Inc. sell the coal in knick-knacks.|
|Where can I buy authentic titanic coal, btw?||Online or at any RMS Titanic gift shop, basically.|
|What would you say the coolest artifact recovered was and, if necessary, why?||My favorite artifacts were culturally related things -- it was apparently a practice for gentleman to carry "story cards" to entertain women or children in a pinch. They were small postcard-sized pages with tiny stories printed in them. I loved reading those!|
|Wow that's pretty cool so if conversations went dry they would, well, whip it out?||Hahahaha.. YES.|
|Any idea why they went out of style? Those sound awesome.||It was completely awesome! They had snarky cards too, for souvenirs, I suspect. We had an artifact postcard that said something like "If you see a woman in a pretty dress, don't talk to her -- go buy the dress. It's cheaper" or something.|
|Well, that sounds nice, but are there efforts to recover that freaking necklace that bitch threw back in the ocean?||The necklace was fictional. :)|
|Do you believe the theory that when the protestants were building the Titanic in Belfast, the Catholics were busy making the ice-berg?||As an ex-catholic, I can independently confirm that this is 100% true. :D.|
|If this is a bit too personal, please disregard: What's your story on becoming an ex-catholic?||It's Ask Me Anything, after all! Not a terrifically interesting story, though. I was raised as a softcore catholic for a while, and I kind of accepted that this Jesus dude had died for my sins around easter and is born around Christmas and I have to hang out with family on both occasions. Around high school I really started to pursue the priesthood as my mother pressured me to, but as a lot of ex-catholics will tell you, the #1 way to make an atheist is to make them read the bible. I became disenchanted with it, embraced rationalism, and the rest is history.|
|Knowing what you know, if you had been on the Titanic as she was going down, what would have been your approach to survive?||Sheesh... Find leathers, gathering mattresses. There was a little Japanese fellow (I wish I remembered his name, sorry!) who strapped himself to a door and a mattress. He survived, even, being pulled aboard by officer Lowe as he searched for survivors. He was frozen, and given a coat and a blanket by some of the passengers. When he warmed up though he even took an oar. Unfortunately, his home country didn't look so kindly on his survival. It shamed his family, and he died alone.|
|his home country didn't look so kindly on his survival. It shamed his family, and he died alone. Wait, what? Why?||An honor code, I think. That he survived where so many women and children didn't implied that he was somehow a coward -- that one of them could have survived if he hadn't.|
|So is it possible that as every person on board had a mattress, that they might have survived if they had been employed as flotation devices?||Or at least increased their chances, if they'd strapped a few mattresses to a door like Masabumi had.|
|Not all of them, certainly, but it might've helped.|
|You are referring to Masabumi Hosono and yes, in those days his behaviour would be looked upon as shameful. These days, not so much.||Exactly, that's his name! Thank you =)|
|Following up on that particular topic: could the eddies created by the ship sinking have been fightable for people sinking with the ship? If not, how far would one have had to be away from the sinking ship to not be pulled down?||Reports from witnesses indicated that was no suction whatsoever -- Charles Joughin was riding the stern rail down "like an elevator" and stepped off the ship into the water without getting his hair wet. Mythbusters has an episode about what forces are required to suck someone down into water after a sinking ship.|
|Did anything you find really catch you by surprise?||Tiny-ass clothing. I'm a bigger guy, and people were an average of a foot shorter back then than we are today. Some of the books were in immaculate condition, too.|
|Oh -- also, "Calling Cards". We had some. It's a phrase based on a real thing! You would call upon a visitor, and the butler / valet / greeter would take your calling card, take it to the master of the estate and recite its contents. Then they'd return, and give you your card back, or invite you in.|
|Have you ever given tours to survivors of the Titanic? How did they respond? Overall, how emotional do people get when learning about it?||Never to a survivor -- by the time I had the job, there was only one last living survivor, Melvina Dean, died shortly after. To living relatives of survivors, though, somewhat frequently, and they were always very overcome with emotion.|
|Given that this exhibit was on the strip, people's reactions were all over the place, but the cost was high enough ($32 for a single adult ticket O_O) that generally only people that really were interested came in. A lot of tears.|
|I've always heard that the Titanic's rudder was far too small to properly steer the ship around, say a floating iceberg. Are there any other fundamental design flaws like this that contributed to the disaster? Were these design flaws addressed in Titanic's sister ships like Olympic?||The Titanic's rudder size was fine -- the problem was that the rudder was directly in front of the largest of the ship's three screws, which was also the only reversing screw. This plays a huge part in the sinking -- when Lee called the bridge with "Iceberg right ahead", officer Murdoch put her screws into "full reverse" instead of stopping. The screw just slammed into gear and started turning immediately, churning millions of tiny bubbles -- think of it like locking your wheels in an emergency stop instead of edging the brakes to slow down. It's possible that this decision was the final nail in the coffin for Titanic. As far as I know, this was not addressed in the Titanic's sister ships.|
|The center screw was the smallest, and was the only one that did not reverse.||Edit** Position when the order to go hard to starboard was put, that is. In those days people didn't refer to which direction you wanted to turn by which direction you intended to go, but rather which direction to point the Rudder. The rudder turns to the right, "starboard", and pushes the nose of the ship left, "port".|
|Hindsight being 20/20...was there anything at all the crew, captain could have done to keep the ship afloat after the impact had they known immediately what happened, how bad the damage was?||Yes -- when the ship first hit, Murdoch ordered the ship full reverse, then stopped. Captain Smith then ordered the ship half ahead, changing the course to Halifax, thinking he could perhaps dock there as an emergency. (This also contributed to the difficulty in finding the ship -- she was some 13 miles I believe northwest of her last posted position because nobody was informed of this change of course.) The damage to the hull of the titanic acted like a "scoop" in that sense, pushing water in and causing greatly hastened flooding, before the Captain understood the extent of the damage and ordered the ship stopped. Keep in mind though that this ship was massive... it took 45 minutes for the ship's carpenter, then the Captain himself to "sound" the ship, walking back and forth along it to ascertain damage.|
|Would the ship have still sunk had they decided to stay dead in the water (no pun intended)?||Yes, it would still have sunk, but perhaps given them a few hours longer to fill the lifeboats. Chances are high the ship would still have been gone by the time the Carpathia arrived, though.|
|So was the sinking inevitable, then?||Yes -- after the strike, sinking was inevitable.|
|Given that the ship crashed the way it did, is there a possible scenario/way to save the ship at all?||Not if you're referring to once the ship collided, but there were a dozen ways beforehand that the tragedy may have been avoided entirely!|
|Did you ever play a PC game back in the 90s called Titanic: Adventure out of Time? What are your thoughts? I thought it was pretty cool the way they reconstructed the whole ship, but alas you can't walk through all the nooks and crannies.||I've heard about it, but never gotten to play it! I wish...|
|There are a small group of programmers that are rebuilding the game with the Cryengine 3 used to power Crysis 2. Here is an old video they did and their Facebook page, full of screenshots of their most recent work. I think they are trying to release it by the 100th anniversary on the 14th.||SO MANY AWESOMES.|
|What do you think fascinates people so much about the sinking of the Titanic in comparison to other "transport catastrophes" such as the Hindenburg disaster?||Only that it kept coming up. Even in context of the time, the Titanic was forgotten about fairly quickly -- the great war, the great depression and World War 2 were quick to follow, relatively. Larger ships were released just the following year. If it weren't for her discovery and subsequent dives, she'd have never been revived in the 80's, then James Cameron's film of course created a huge resurgence.|
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